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		<title>By: How Copywriters can Bring Peace to the SEO vs. PR Debate &#124; The Copywriter&#8217;s Crucible</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Copywriters can Bring Peace to the SEO vs. PR Debate &#124; The Copywriter&#8217;s Crucible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was also able to latch onto another post on the same theme by SEO consultant Shane Quigley. In ‘PR is Dead, Long Live SEO!’, Shane spells out how misunderstanding is creating an impending war between the PR dinosaurs and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was also able to latch onto another post on the same theme by SEO consultant Shane Quigley. In ‘PR is Dead, Long Live SEO!’, Shane spells out how misunderstanding is creating an impending war between the PR dinosaurs and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken Mcgaffin of word tracker adds to the debate here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/362863/why-online-pr-and-seo-go-hand-in-hand.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;E-consultancy Blog&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Mcgaffin of word tracker adds to the debate here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/362863/why-online-pr-and-seo-go-hand-in-hand.html" >E-consultancy Blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sophie, its good to see the grass roots of PR being so switched on to new directions and ideas... I agree that ROI is not the beginning and end of any campaign but it gets the deal closed!

If I can help you with any of your work, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sophie, its good to see the grass roots of PR being so switched on to new directions and ideas&#8230; I agree that ROI is not the beginning and end of any campaign but it gets the deal closed!</p>
<p>If I can help you with any of your work, please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie Lassman</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie Lassman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane, I strongly agree with you in that the key advantage SEO has over PR is results in ROI. However, ROI is not necesarily the number one objective within a PR campaign. Yes, at the end of the day clients want to maximise profits but by definition PR is about reputation.

&quot;Public relations is the discipline which looks after reputation, with the aim of earning understanding and support and influencing opinion and behaviour. It is the planned and sustained effort to establish and maintain goodwill and mutual understanding between an organisation and its publics.&quot; - Thanks to the CIPR!

I agree that PR professionals need to educate themselves about the online aspect of PR as the Internet is probably now the most influential information outlet. It is essential that a clients reputation is managed well online, as well as offline, as news and information travel fast particularly in times of crisis!

This is where I personally feel PR would win over SEO. Could an SEM agency really cope with 20 odd news thirsty journalists constantly calling at all hours of the day???

With this in mind I don&#039;t think the argument should be one versus the other. Like others have commented, it should be about working together to achieve maximum results for the client.

Will be interesting to see what the future has in store!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane, I strongly agree with you in that the key advantage SEO has over PR is results in ROI. However, ROI is not necesarily the number one objective within a PR campaign. Yes, at the end of the day clients want to maximise profits but by definition PR is about reputation.</p>
<p>&#8220;Public relations is the discipline which looks after reputation, with the aim of earning understanding and support and influencing opinion and behaviour. It is the planned and sustained effort to establish and maintain goodwill and mutual understanding between an organisation and its publics.&#8221; &#8211; Thanks to the CIPR!</p>
<p>I agree that PR professionals need to educate themselves about the online aspect of PR as the Internet is probably now the most influential information outlet. It is essential that a clients reputation is managed well online, as well as offline, as news and information travel fast particularly in times of crisis!</p>
<p>This is where I personally feel PR would win over SEO. Could an SEM agency really cope with 20 odd news thirsty journalists constantly calling at all hours of the day???</p>
<p>With this in mind I don&#8217;t think the argument should be one versus the other. Like others have commented, it should be about working together to achieve maximum results for the client.</p>
<p>Will be interesting to see what the future has in store!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Levin of HitTail</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Levin of HitTail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for the other PR firms out there, but you know that it actually is a New York boutique PR agency that created HitTail? It&#039;s the same PR firm that launched Amazon, Priceline and several other Web 1.0 companies. But significantly, it&#039;s also the PR firm that started with GoTo, ushering in the entire pay-per-click industry and blurring the church &amp; state issues that separated search results from paid advertising.

Public relations by nature lives in the grey area between orthodox and unorthodox techniques for garnering publicity. And yes, many PR companies have got it wrong, such as limiting their domain to optimization of press releases or through &quot;invisible hand&quot; blogging (flogs, sock puppets and astroturfing). The worst cases blow up in the corporate sponsors&#039; faces, which makes the mainstream blogosphere color the entire PR industry in that color.

But Connors, for example, is capable of auditing a company&#039;s information assets and determining what percentage is still not being used to bring in new customers through search. After completing that audit, we go in with alternative presentation layers to their content management system, and fortify their website--sometimes all-out replacing what they had. This is the equivalent of brain surgery to a website, changing everything the client took for granted about web publishing.

Usually within a few months, the Web becomes their new #1 lead generation source. Or their initial referrers and page views gets boosted dramatically. And it might be a matter of semantics. But we don&#039;t consider ourselves primarily an SEO company. But neither can we purely call ourselves public relations, because of our counterparts who &quot;don&#039;t get it&quot;. We&#039;re looking for some other term to call what we do. But in the end, it&#039;s about connecting people who turn to the Internet (or any other media, for that matter) to get their information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for the other PR firms out there, but you know that it actually is a New York boutique PR agency that created HitTail? It&#8217;s the same PR firm that launched Amazon, Priceline and several other Web 1.0 companies. But significantly, it&#8217;s also the PR firm that started with GoTo, ushering in the entire pay-per-click industry and blurring the church &amp; state issues that separated search results from paid advertising.</p>
<p>Public relations by nature lives in the grey area between orthodox and unorthodox techniques for garnering publicity. And yes, many PR companies have got it wrong, such as limiting their domain to optimization of press releases or through &#8220;invisible hand&#8221; blogging (flogs, sock puppets and astroturfing). The worst cases blow up in the corporate sponsors&#8217; faces, which makes the mainstream blogosphere color the entire PR industry in that color.</p>
<p>But Connors, for example, is capable of auditing a company&#8217;s information assets and determining what percentage is still not being used to bring in new customers through search. After completing that audit, we go in with alternative presentation layers to their content management system, and fortify their website&#8211;sometimes all-out replacing what they had. This is the equivalent of brain surgery to a website, changing everything the client took for granted about web publishing.</p>
<p>Usually within a few months, the Web becomes their new #1 lead generation source. Or their initial referrers and page views gets boosted dramatically. And it might be a matter of semantics. But we don&#8217;t consider ourselves primarily an SEO company. But neither can we purely call ourselves public relations, because of our counterparts who &#8220;don&#8217;t get it&#8221;. We&#8217;re looking for some other term to call what we do. But in the end, it&#8217;s about connecting people who turn to the Internet (or any other media, for that matter) to get their information.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Willcox</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl Willcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad fact of the matter is that only a tiny proportion of PR agencies &#039;get it&#039;. About three quarters of my 1,600+ customers are PR agencies (the rest are in-house PR departments) and I could only vouch for a handfull of these as being online-savvy. And the ones that do get it are often at the lower-end of the size scale - one- or two-man bands usually.
I can&#039;t really recommend any as it might upset my other customers!
Have you thought of hiring one or two PR people? I know of at least one big SEO agency which has done this. They could at least handle creation and optimisation of press releases and online submission (to my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dwpub.com/pressreleasewires&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;press release wire&lt;/a&gt; for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad fact of the matter is that only a tiny proportion of PR agencies &#8216;get it&#8217;. About three quarters of my 1,600+ customers are PR agencies (the rest are in-house PR departments) and I could only vouch for a handfull of these as being online-savvy. And the ones that do get it are often at the lower-end of the size scale &#8211; one- or two-man bands usually.<br />
I can&#8217;t really recommend any as it might upset my other customers!<br />
Have you thought of hiring one or two PR people? I know of at least one big SEO agency which has done this. They could at least handle creation and optimisation of press releases and online submission (to my <a href="http://www.dwpub.com/pressreleasewires" >press release wire</a> for example).</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daryl, thanks for stopping by to comment. I think your points are valid but I still struggle as the owner of an SEM agency to find a PR partner that &quot;gets it&quot;...

Can you recommend anyone we could approach to work with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daryl, thanks for stopping by to comment. I think your points are valid but I still struggle as the owner of an SEM agency to find a PR partner that &#8220;gets it&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Can you recommend anyone we could approach to work with?</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Willcox</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl Willcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the main thrust of your argument Shane - your thoughts echo many of my concerns.
I&#039;m a bit worried by the thread of comments to this posting though. There is no real purpose in discussing &#039;who will win - PR or SEO?&#039; or have a debate about the semantics of these terms.
It is true that the PR sector, on the whole, is being slow to appreciate the value of online media. It is also true that SEO agencies, while very innovative, are often short on content creation skills.
What we should be doing everything we can to encourage is an open dialogue between these two disciplines. As many have said, when PR and SEO is combined the result is a towering force.
One quick comment on mergers and aquisitions in this sector - you must remember the biggest SEO agencies are about 50 people and that the biggest PR agencies can be ten times this size and often part of much bigger media groups. My prediction is that when these groups realise the synergy beteen SEO and other disiplines like PR they will start waving their cheque books around with some enthusiasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the main thrust of your argument Shane &#8211; your thoughts echo many of my concerns.<br />
I&#8217;m a bit worried by the thread of comments to this posting though. There is no real purpose in discussing &#8216;who will win &#8211; PR or SEO?&#8217; or have a debate about the semantics of these terms.<br />
It is true that the PR sector, on the whole, is being slow to appreciate the value of online media. It is also true that SEO agencies, while very innovative, are often short on content creation skills.<br />
What we should be doing everything we can to encourage is an open dialogue between these two disciplines. As many have said, when PR and SEO is combined the result is a towering force.<br />
One quick comment on mergers and aquisitions in this sector &#8211; you must remember the biggest SEO agencies are about 50 people and that the biggest PR agencies can be ten times this size and often part of much bigger media groups. My prediction is that when these groups realise the synergy beteen SEO and other disiplines like PR they will start waving their cheque books around with some enthusiasm.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments on the subject Mike. I agree that the term public relations in its purest form encompasses SEO but I suppose my real question is - are SEO agencies going to evolve into PR consultancies or will they always be separate, more technical entities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments on the subject Mike. I agree that the term public relations in its purest form encompasses SEO but I suppose my real question is &#8211; are SEO agencies going to evolve into PR consultancies or will they always be separate, more technical entities?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Levin of HitTail</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Levin of HitTail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you have to do is pick apart the term &quot;public relations&quot; and the term &quot;search engine optimization&quot;. One refers to how the relationships between people is what&#039;s at issue. And isn&#039;t that what the search engines do? Connect people? (aside from the new Freebase initiative) The other shows how details of a database index are what&#039;s important. And the primary mission of any company is to get and keep customers. Therefore, relationships between people (PR) is more fundamental and trumps database details (SEO).

It&#039;s set science. Are all dogs mammals? Yes. Are all mammals dogs? No.

Is all SEO PR? Yes. Is all PR SEO? No.

Therefore, people with the human relationship skills who also master information science have broadened their human relationship skills, and are better positioned to help companies in their mission to get and keep customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you have to do is pick apart the term &#8220;public relations&#8221; and the term &#8220;search engine optimization&#8221;. One refers to how the relationships between people is what&#8217;s at issue. And isn&#8217;t that what the search engines do? Connect people? (aside from the new Freebase initiative) The other shows how details of a database index are what&#8217;s important. And the primary mission of any company is to get and keep customers. Therefore, relationships between people (PR) is more fundamental and trumps database details (SEO).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s set science. Are all dogs mammals? Yes. Are all mammals dogs? No.</p>
<p>Is all SEO PR? Yes. Is all PR SEO? No.</p>
<p>Therefore, people with the human relationship skills who also master information science have broadened their human relationship skills, and are better positioned to help companies in their mission to get and keep customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, would you agree with my comments about SEO being more dynamic than PR as a trade in terms of willingness to change and evolve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, would you agree with my comments about SEO being more dynamic than PR as a trade in terms of willingness to change and evolve?</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Geoff, thanks for your comments. Wise words and closely aligned with are own client philosophy. As a PR man, how often do you come across SEO treading on your toes and how educated are your customers about online PR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Geoff, thanks for your comments. Wise words and closely aligned with are own client philosophy. As a PR man, how often do you come across SEO treading on your toes and how educated are your customers about online PR?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Odden</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Odden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the charlatans and snake-oil salesmen of today aren’t to be found in public relations. They’re to be found in SEO.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It amuses me when people start throwing around derogatory names about things they clearly don&#039;t understand.

I do agree that SEO is not as strategic as PR and I doubt that SEO will absorb PR. Yet they both have synergistic qualities.

I also agree with Brian that PR and SEO need to work together. As an owner of both types of agencies, I can assure you the results are formidable.

For a basic example, search Google for &quot;pr agency&quot; &quot;pr firm&quot; &quot;public relations firm&quot; &quot;public relations agency&quot; and so forth.   Our PR firm (M&amp;O) is in the top ten for all and many more. That&#039;s the start of SEO and PR working together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the charlatans and snake-oil salesmen of today aren’t to be found in public relations. They’re to be found in SEO.</p></blockquote>
<p>It amuses me when people start throwing around derogatory names about things they clearly don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>I do agree that SEO is not as strategic as PR and I doubt that SEO will absorb PR. Yet they both have synergistic qualities.</p>
<p>I also agree with Brian that PR and SEO need to work together. As an owner of both types of agencies, I can assure you the results are formidable.</p>
<p>For a basic example, search Google for &#8220;pr agency&#8221; &#8220;pr firm&#8221; &#8220;public relations firm&#8221; &#8220;public relations agency&#8221; and so forth.   Our PR firm (M&amp;O) is in the top ten for all and many more. That&#8217;s the start of SEO and PR working together.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Wilding</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Wilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pr is about people, good Pr Companies understand their clients. Where are they? What are their aspirations? How close are we to our client? Apply the &quot;Murphy&quot; principle. i.e. if it can happen it will happen!
The problem with most PR outfits is simple, &quot;this is an account, &quot;not a collection of individuals, no indepth analysis of the personalities within the organisation.
I.E. A people business.
I have witnessed many PR disasters where it is apparent that the account manager is simply counting the bottom line with no account of the people involved.
Get close, learn.
Geoff Wilding
Merevale Media Ltd. (A minnow in the business, but we still understand the &quot;people&quot; basis of PR.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pr is about people, good Pr Companies understand their clients. Where are they? What are their aspirations? How close are we to our client? Apply the &#8220;Murphy&#8221; principle. i.e. if it can happen it will happen!<br />
The problem with most PR outfits is simple, &#8220;this is an account, &#8220;not a collection of individuals, no indepth analysis of the personalities within the organisation.<br />
I.E. A people business.<br />
I have witnessed many PR disasters where it is apparent that the account manager is simply counting the bottom line with no account of the people involved.<br />
Get close, learn.<br />
Geoff Wilding<br />
Merevale Media Ltd. (A minnow in the business, but we still understand the &#8220;people&#8221; basis of PR.)</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, thanks for contributing such great insights. I hadn&#039;t thought about a new breed of marketeer. A hybrid with the schooling of PR and the tech savvy agility of SEM.

That would be a heck of a skill set...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, thanks for contributing such great insights. I hadn&#8217;t thought about a new breed of marketeer. A hybrid with the schooling of PR and the tech savvy agility of SEM.</p>
<p>That would be a heck of a skill set&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Richard, I think you&#039;re right about the un-desirables being resident within the SEO community but there are some great companies out there delivering excellent results.

As for PR engulfing SEO, I think that will come down to profit. If search marketing makes more money then the acquisitions will be driven by them.

Its going to be an interesting one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard, I think you&#8217;re right about the un-desirables being resident within the SEO community but there are some great companies out there delivering excellent results.</p>
<p>As for PR engulfing SEO, I think that will come down to profit. If search marketing makes more money then the acquisitions will be driven by them.</p>
<p>Its going to be an interesting one.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Solis</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Solis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for including me in this article. I think you bring up some incredible points, that will only continue to stir controversy, and more importantly, change, in order to improve the business and the results in general.

It&#039;s clear to me that Social Media will force a new breed of marketing professionals that will engage with PR and SEO.

I&#039;m only calling all of this out to help the industry wake up - or at the very least, inspire the promising stars to rise up and succeed on their own.

You&#039;re article right on. Most companies think that because their releases show up in Google or Yahoo, that their SEO is effective. But it&#039;s not about finding your company online when you search by company name, it&#039;s about showing up at the top of the list when searching other key words.

I honestly believe that most PR doesn&#039;t truly understand SEO and most SEO&#039;ers don&#039;t understand markets, pain points, and benefits in order to accurately construct a compelling press release (but then again, most PR pros don&#039;t either.)  Perhaps the two should work together...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for including me in this article. I think you bring up some incredible points, that will only continue to stir controversy, and more importantly, change, in order to improve the business and the results in general.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear to me that Social Media will force a new breed of marketing professionals that will engage with PR and SEO.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only calling all of this out to help the industry wake up &#8211; or at the very least, inspire the promising stars to rise up and succeed on their own.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re article right on. Most companies think that because their releases show up in Google or Yahoo, that their SEO is effective. But it&#8217;s not about finding your company online when you search by company name, it&#8217;s about showing up at the top of the list when searching other key words.</p>
<p>I honestly believe that most PR doesn&#8217;t truly understand SEO and most SEO&#8217;ers don&#8217;t understand markets, pain points, and benefits in order to accurately construct a compelling press release (but then again, most PR pros don&#8217;t either.)  Perhaps the two should work together&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.epiphanysolutions.co.uk/blog/pr-is-dead-long-live-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I think: the charlatans and snake-oil salesmen of today aren&#039;t to be found in public relations. They&#039;re to be found in SEO.

I do accept that the most important media company in the world today is Google. Since Google doesn&#039;t employ a single journalist (to the best of my knowledge), then media relations is clearly no longer the only game in town. But SEO will become a part of public relations rather than vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I think: the charlatans and snake-oil salesmen of today aren&#8217;t to be found in public relations. They&#8217;re to be found in SEO.</p>
<p>I do accept that the most important media company in the world today is Google. Since Google doesn&#8217;t employ a single journalist (to the best of my knowledge), then media relations is clearly no longer the only game in town. But SEO will become a part of public relations rather than vice versa.</p>
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